Friday, 6 August 2010

POSTSECRET August 6, 2010


This is a post that I have been looking forward to writing for some time now. And it has nothing to do with the United Kingdom or the British! It is a project that I became involved in (unknowingly) a few years ago that has turned out to be a very interesting and unique experience. If you are unaware of PostSecret, let me start at the beginning...

As a mail carrier (in Germantown, MD) you get used to seeing unusual things go through the mail. I have delivered ashes of deceased pets and humans to teary eyed customers; tons of certified letters sent by bill collectors to equally teary eyed customers; valuables in registered mail; live baby chicks, ducklings, worms, crickets, car tires and wheels, steamer trunks, and even packages that are broken and oozing unknown materials. I have even been known to pick up a dog or two who had broken out of their yards and returned them to their owners. You'd think I'd be immune to odd things. But nothing prepared me for PostSecret!

Let me start off by explaining the process of casing mail. Every mail carrier has their own route covering a certain territory. In the office each route has their own case. The big metal case is labeled with everyone's addresses, each address having their own slot where the mail is put. We carriers stand at that case all morning "casing" all the mail for our customers. The mail comes to us in trays and buckets and we are basically sorting for anywhere from 4-6 hours a morning. After all the mail is cased, we pull it all down, in order of delivery

One customer of mine (Frank Warren) started receiving a few post cards in the mail daily. They were preprinted with his address and looked like a card that a dentist office would send reminding you of an upcoming appointment. It was just something I subconsciously noticed. There were just a few every day and they all looked the same. I never turned them over to look at the other side. All I was concerned with was the address side. So for a while I didn't pay much attention. We deal with thousands upon thousands of letters during our mornings of casing our mail and don't usually look to see who a letter is from or what it is. That all changed one day for me.

While casing one of Frank's post cards one fell out of my hands and landed upside down on the floor. I gasped when I read in huge bold letters I LIKE TO HAVE SEX WITH STRANGERS. You can imagine my shock. That's all it said. It had bright coloring underneath the letters. I'll never forget it. I immediately ran around showing my close friends what I had found in the mail. One guy was so shocked he said, "Did a girl write it?" I was like, "how the heck do I know, who cares?" I looked on the address side of the card and read the preprinted instructions next to Frank's address. It invited you to participate in a group art project by writing a secret (that no one else knows) on the other side of the card and mailing it anonymously to the printed address. I don't have to tell you that I pulled the few postcards that were in his address slot that day and began reading them immediately! From that day forward, me, (and a few friends at work who I had showed the postcard to) began reading all the cards daily. I still didn't really know what was going on, but was intrigued.

A few weeks later I happened to meet Frank's lovely wife Jan at the mailbox. She had a knowing little smile on her face and looked as if she knew what I was going to ask. She explained that Frank started this little "experiment" a while ago, handing out these preprinted postcards at metro stations, art exhibits, and shops in Georgetown and the Washington, D.C. area. I think he also went to local libraries and put them inside various books for people to find. The postcards began to trickle in from his efforts. He was enjoying reading the cards and really didn't expect much more from his experiment. We discussed it for a few minutes and I went on my way.

However, as time went on the postcards began to more than just trickle in. We at the post office were having a blast reading them every day. There were silly, funny, serious, sad, lonely, hateful, every kind of emotion you could imagine on these little postcards. The exceptionally funny ones were passed around the office for everyone to share. One of my co-workers said she couldn't believe that this person lived on MY route. She said, "of all people to get this on their route, YOU!" I took it to mean that she knew I was thoroughly enjoying it and maybe she was a tad jealous! I have to say that it was fun and a great conversation topic, but despite all that, I began to learn from it. There are many many sad and lonely people out there and some of these postcards would break your heart. Suddenly the problems that I or my friends might have, seemed small in comparison to the ones I was reading. It certainly made me take a look at my life and realize how lucky I was. I just wanted to reach out and help but they were always anonymous except for the postmark you hadn't a clue where the card came from.

By now I had also talked to Frank about his project. He came out to the box one day and said, "I hope some of these postcards aren't too unsettling for you". I thought it was such a perfect statement as some of them were very crude and he had to know that I was seeing them and possibly becoming offended. I assured him that I could handle it and thought the whole thing was a unique idea. Shortly thereafter Frank started a website for his cards. He began by posting several cards on the website every Sunday from his weekly bundle. And the whole thing just got bigger and bigger.

Soon I was getting postcards from overseas, home made cards, extravagant cards that took hours to create. I remember one that had paper clips and office supplies taped all over it and said something to the effect of "I hate my boss so I waste office supplies". So many people hate their bosses. I wish I could remember all the tricks that have been played on them. One of my favorites was from a person who wrote "When I was a young man in Florida I used to work in a post office as part time Christmas help. We used to read all the postcards that came through. Do you all still do that?" I wanted to scream, "Yes, we still do!" to the guy, but he will never know my answer. I also read ones that left me feeling depressed like the one that wrote about watching her neighbor starve his dog to death in his backyard and she hadn't done anything about it. She feels so guilty and can't get over it. I felt her sadness right through her words on the card. There were quite a few that were actual photographs where a whole family would be standing in the photo and the mom would be scratched out and something like "thanks Mom for ruining my life" over the photo. A lot of them about family dysfunction. There were some that were so bad I can't even repeat here. I was getting a glimpse into strangers' minds and souls. It was heartbreaking at times, and other times inspiring.

I don't know which happened first, the media got wind of the website or Frank put out his first book. All I know is that I rolled up in my truck one day and there were cameras and a reporter interviewing Frank by the mailbox. They were so excited that they happened to be there when the secrets were actually being delivered. I am camera shy (yes, believe me, I am) so I would never allow them to take pictures of me. However, many of them have pictures of my truck slowly pulling up to the box and my hand putting the mail in. I have been interviewed and asked all kinds of questions like "do you read the postcards?" which at that time my reply was, "well, we're not allowed to read the mail, but sometimes they accidentally get turned over" or "does Frank treat you well at Christmas?", which I respond with a resounding "YES" (even though we aren't supposed to accept tips, yeah right). One asked me if I'd ever written in a secret. I actually HAD written a secret in, but his question took me off guard and I suddenly felt flustered, like somehow he would KNOW which one was mine, so I told him "no". Now I realize how silly that was. I never told that to Frank, I guess I should have. Anyway, Frank would stand by with a proud smile knowing that I was enjoying my little moment of fame. He'd go on a radio or talk show and my phone would start buzzing, "that guy on your route is on TV!" Then one day Frank got me at a weak moment and snapped a picture of me delivering his mail. The next book that came out had that picture right in the front! Was I ever shocked! But it was a fun surprise. My daughter was reading the website one day and clicked on a clip of one of Frank's speeches. She was amazed to see ME up on the screen behind Frank. She said, "hey, that's my mom!"

I actually DID get a little fame from it! Some of the postcards started coming with "Hi Kathy" on the front. Frank has a large mailbox with a marker inside where people can come and sign his mailbox. There are a lot of messages written on it to me, thanking me for delivering the secrets. Frank even organized a Internet Christmas letter to me with messages from his followers online and then he printed it out for me at Christmas time. I felt very special. He was always quick to acknowledge me as an important part of PostSecret. He has also given me all his books, signed to me by him of course. He even signed one for my daughter. I have friends from other states who have emailed me and asked if there was any way that I was "Kathy the mail carrier" that they had read about on this new website for secrets they found. It's a small world, that's for sure. I told him a funny story once. I was about a half a mile from his house serving another customer one day and she asked me the "are you the Kathy from PostSecret?" question. I told her I was and she was SO impressed. She had just bought one of his books for her daughter who is a huge fan of PostSecret. She asked me if I would sign the book for her. I told her that I could do better than that. If she would give it to me I'd take it to Frank and have him sign it. She responded, "Oh, no, I want YOUR signature!" How funny is that? Frank was tickled when I told him that. I actually out did him on that one!  Shortly after I quit work Frank had an exhibit at the American Visionary Art Museum.  I was invited to attend but was traveling at the time.  The Art Museum made me a brightly colored tiara with "USPS Wonder Woman" written on it.  Frank sent it to me and I will always cherish it.  I wish I could have been there in person to accept it.

Sometimes when I arrived at his mailbox there would be a postcard just lying in there that someone had driven to his house and dropped off for him. I often wondered if it made him nervous to have his address "out there" to millions of people. But he never seemed worried about it. One day when I got to the box there was a note. I picked it up (I wasn't being nosy, a lot of times customers leave us notes to do something like go to the door to retrieve a package or whatever). To paraphrase, the note said "Our parents think we are sleeping in the tent in my backyard but we took a road trip to see your mailbox instead!" and was signed by two girls from Ohio!! Crazy!  

When I left the Post Office in January 2010, to move to England (for 3 years), the secrets were still coming fast and furious. For the past couple of years there were so many that I could not possibly read them all. I'd read a few that happen to catch my eye. Sometimes one of the clerks who sort the mail to the various routes, would read an interesting one and leave it wrong side up in my stack of letters, so that I would read it. It has really opened my eyes to the lives of people all around you. There are so many stories behind the faces. If we could be as open to each other as the people who pour out their secrets, I think it would be a more understanding world. But too often people are afraid to show their inhibitions, sufferings and well, their secrets. As long as we have PostSecret, there is an outlet for those want to share. I have no doubt that it has been a good thing.

Frank's website is one of the most visited websites in the whole world. www.postsecret.com  Even with that popularity he has never allowed any advertising on it. He hopes to keep it this way. His books and his travels have raised thousands of dollars for suicide prevention, a cause he cares about greatly. He travels all over the country delivering speeches mostly on college and university campuses. His speeches are very popular and draw huge crowds.

As happy as I was to retire from the post office I was very sad to leave the PostSecret project and my friends; Frank and Jan, their daughter Hailey and their wonderful, funny, lovable dog Shadow! I couldn't have asked for nicer customers and a more interesting experience. If Frank posts my blog on his website I hope his readers can tell how much their secrets meant to me over the years.


With Frank's permission I am putting some of the cards (taken from his books) here on my blog along with a few other things that mean so much to me. I hope that I have done Frank's project justice with my reflections.






Frank's preprinted post cards that he passed out to start the project.  Sorry for the fuzziness.



                     THE POSTCARDS
























































IN FRANK'S WORDS 











Frank's words to me.






















243 comments:

  1. I really loved your kind thoughts and warm feelings about PostSecret Kathy. All of us here miss you too but also know you are enjoying your well-deserved adventure.

    I'm happy that people who have trusted me with their secrets can now see what I have known all along - the care and compassion their postcards received through the mail.

    I'm glad we have continued to stay in touch since your move and am more convinced then ever that it was no mere coincidence that you were the one who carefully delivered more than 500,000 secrets to my home.

    Thanks, with deep appreciation and affection,
    -Frank Warren

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  2. Wow! What a great story Kathy. I realize how many sad stories there are out there when I work with my students. But this goes out and shows all of the stories throughout the world. Sometimes I just see a stranger and wonder what their story is. Thanks so much for sharing.
    Lori Graybill

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  3. Aunt Kathie, this is AWESOME!! I have loved looking at the Post Secret webiste for a long time and never had any idea that you were the mail carrier! I can't wait to hear more about it. Also, I heard that you and Uncle Joe had a great time visiting with everyone! I wish that I could have been there! Hope all is well- love to you both!

    Elise :)

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  4. Great post mom! I'm proud of you

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  5. Isn't it fitting that Frank would be the first to comment on my PostSecret blog? Thank you Frank for all the kind words. You are a very special person. The world is a better place because of you and PostSecret!

    Elise, I can't believe you knew about PostSecret but didn't know I was the carrier! I am so glad you now know. My cousin in Missouri emailed me recently asking me if there was any chance that I was the "Kathy the mail carrier" for PostSecret!

    Thanks Melanie and Lori for the continued comments on the blog.

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  6. Thanks for sharing this, Kathy. (And thanks for the love and care you put in delivering the postcards!) I loved reading about your experience.

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  7. Neat story - thanks for sharing, Kathy!

    P.S. This week's secrets are up with a link here, so you're about to be bombarded :)

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  8. Thank you for bringing Frank the secrets, week after week.

    My husband and I have a late night/early morning ritual of reading them together. Sunday just wouldn't be the same without them. Do you think the new mail carrier is up to it? :)

    You're awesome, Kathy!

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  9. Hi Kathy—

    I sent in a few of the early secrets. Three of them got published, but not in the books.

    When I was little my dad told me to always be careful what I write on postcards, because it will be read by every postal worker whose hands it passes through. I've never forgotten that, and thank you for the loving care you've taken with all our secrets. Nobody does it better!

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  10. This was wonderful to read! Thank you for taking the time to type this up. It must've been an unforgettable job! :)

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  11. Kathy, you probably know that everyone envied you for a long time because you got to read some of the secrets before everyone else every sunday. I think you had one of the best jobs in the world. Aside from Frank, you read my secret. Even if it never made it to the webpage, I'm relieved to know that someone as kind and sweet as you read it.

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  12. What a graceful and kind story you have told, and so wonderful to know that people's secrets were treated with such respect. I hope you and Frank remain in touch - you both have much to be proud of.

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  13. So awesome. Hope you are well in England, and thank you for your service to the project!

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  14. I got to this post from Frank's site, and I want to thank you for your part in the project. Your post brought tears to my eyes in several places.

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  15. Yea Kathy!!!! Thank you for all you do! You did a great job telling your story and the part you played in the post secret project. I loved your post!

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  16. PostSecret Kathy,

    I am so touched by your story, and agree with Frank that it is by no accident that you were the person to deliver so many precious secrets. You are precious, yourself.

    Best wishes to you and your husband. I look forward to being a reader of your blog.

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  17. Kathy, you are truly a special person. Your continued devotion to the PostSecret project is truly inspiring. Thank you again for being such an integral part of such an important project. You made such a difference in so many lives. Thank you.

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  18. Great read! Thanks for being so wonderful at your job!

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  19. Hi Kathy,

    Thank you for sharing your story! I'm sure you are dearly missed.

    I actually wanted to comment about being an American ex-pat in England. I lived there growing up, and my parents are back living there now. Have you looked into American Women's Clubs in your area? My mother LOVES her club. It might help with the loneliness and help you get acclimated.

    Best wishes!

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  20. Kathy, what a wonderfully written piece! Thank you so much for your dedication to the Postsecret project in the past! As Frank has said, you truly were an important part of the project!

    I feel we are connected, as a handful of my secrets went through your hands over the years! Thank you for getting them to Frank! Thank you also for sharing with us about your journey with Postsecret!

    Blessings over you while you're abroad!

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  21. Thank you! You have the best postal route in the world I think. You seem like a lovely lovely human! I wish you and your family a million blessings. And I mean that.

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  22. Like so many others I want to thank you for the part you played with PostSecret.

    I hope you and your husband have an amazing few years in England :)

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  23. You're the best, Kathy! I loved reading about your experience and your thoughts on so many of the secrets you've been privileged to be a part of. Blessings and Shalom!

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  24. Courtney Carter7 August 2010 at 21:45

    It was you for a reason. I think everyone is a little envious of your position and so grateful for you as well.

    Your story is so sweet.

    I think there is always something that we can relate to in the secrets each week, both when we have things in common or are completely opposite of them.

    Thanks for being so great Kathy!

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  25. Thanks Kathy for doing such an amazing job and sharing your story with us! Have a blast in England!!

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  26. It's so great to read all of this. Ever since my first exposure to Postsecret I've wondered about the person that delivers the cards. I've always had good relationships with my mail carriers (and have known many others in the profession) and am glad you welcomed the responsibility, instead of just being perturbed at the extra weight.

    I hope nothing but the best for you Kathy, and thank you for your service to this amazingly beautiful project. It couldn't have reached us without you.

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  27. Hey...

    Don't you know? How many times I wished I were you.

    Ever since I got to know about Post-Secret. A Peruan friend introduced it to me. I'm from El Salvador and I got to know her because her MSN address is exactly the same as mine, but has a '9'more than mine. Soon I got her school classmates asking me for some reports. I added her. You wouldn't think on that right? Now it makes me think it was fated that I got to know more from Post Secret.
    I think that the unexpected is sometimes the funnier.

    Thanks a lot for helping us know about this project. And more than that, having fun in the process, that makes your work more valuable than anything! Thanks a lot Kathy! enjoy England!

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  28. Kathy,

    you are amazing! Thank you for your years of service to USPS! I know that you'll be missed.

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  29. Hi Kathy,

    I'm a BIG postsecret fan - it's like my sunday comics - and I'm so honored to read your story! Not gonna lie, but moving to MD to become a mail carrier and possibly take over that route seems like a pretty sweet job right now... I'm jealous! lol

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  30. to know that so many of my secrets have passed through your hands somehow frees me of them. though i've never seen one on the website or in a book, it is absolutely wonderful to think that you gained a bit of pleasure in reading a secret that was mine.

    thank you so much for maintaining such a positive demeanor, kathy. it is wonderful to know that you have found happiness in this as well.

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  31. Amazing. Awesome. Wonderful.

    Thank you for you. Enjoy your new adventure!

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  32. Thank you for all of your hard work, I have enjoyed post secret for over five years. It was so moving to read your thoughts, and what cards stayed with you over your tenure. Best of luck to you in your new adventure.

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  33. Kathy:

    Frank told us about your site over on the PS site. I wanted to come over and thank you for all your work. It was fun to read this, your side of the experience, I'm so glad you wrote it. And, of course, best wishes for you in England. That is a grand and glorious adventure even though we do all miss you here!

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  34. Every Sunday when I read postsecret my heart is moved in ways I cant even begin to put into words, I laugh and I cry and then I read them all again. Some of the messages on the postcards have helped me through the hardest moments in my life. It took me a long time to be able to write my secret on a card because I knew that the world would see it, knowing that you would be the one to carry it to Frank made slipping the card in the mail a lot easier. Thank you for loving this project so much and making the process of setting my secrets free a lot less scary! God bless you Kathy!

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  35. Hello, Kathy,

    Like some of the other posters above, it makes me really happy to know that the mail workers are reading the secrets. I have sent in 3 that have never made it into the books or onto the website. I know that Frank only has so much time and space, and you didn't have time to read them all yourself either, but it's oddly comforting to know that someone out there in a sorting room or loading dock still got to see my secret. Thank you for setting us all free. Send us a postcard from England!

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  36. Thanks Kathy,

    I never sent in a secret, but I am thankful that you were there to deliver all those secrets to Frank. Without you, his project might not be the success it is.

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  37. Thank you for sharing your side of the story, Kathy! This actually made me cry (in a good way) and it's nice to know (like they said above) that you and your former co-workers read the secrets.
    Thank you for taking care of the world's secrets. And have fun in England! You should send a postcard. :)

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  38. Thank you Kathy!

    I have only sent in one secret in the many years I've been reading postsecret, and it never got published. I don't mind though, because I know that you may have read it. :)

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  39. Kathy, you're amazing. It's heartwarming to see how much everyone appreciates the work you have done over the years. Do take care and have a fantastic time in England!

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  40. Kathy, you have delivered at least five of my secrets to Frank. It makes me happy to think that maybe you read one, and maybe it touched you somehow. I'll never meet you, and you'll never know who I am, but I feel happy knowing we had just a brief moment of connection.

    You're a wonderful lady, and I'm loving your blog. Good luck in everything you do, and thank you for everything that you've done.

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  41. Your post brought tears to my eyes...thank you for your service to the Postsecret project!

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  42. Kathy,
    I always wondered what the folks at the post office did when the project picked up and postcards were coming in from all over the world...I loved reading your post, it brought tears to my eyes.
    Somehow, every Sunday morning, thanks to your efforts, I was reading others secrets, hoping to see mine -or not-, and was comforted in a strange way knowing that at that moment, I was with the 200,000+ other people across the world...who start their Sunday by going to PostSecret.

    Thanks Kathy...and Frank,too!!

    Christine
    (All the way up in Canada in a little town called Beausejour!!!)

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  43. Kathy,

    I was sad to know that you would no longer be Frank's mail carrier... But reading this I am glad that it had such an impact on your life. I never mailed a secret to Frank but I am a part of a company that does direct mail advertising and I know that Frank is on our mailing list (I lived/Worked in DC for a very long time) and even knowing that you delivered that to him made me happy.

    I want to thank you for being a part of this, a part of us, the post secret community, and always remember you were (and still are in so many ways) a part of our lives.

    Thanks,
    Natalie

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  44. Dear Kathy,

    Thank you.

    Tara

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  45. Thank you so much for all your hard work and secret carrying Kathy! You are a wonderful person! Have fun in England!

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  46. Thanks for sharing your part in the amazingness that Post Secret is. :)

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  47. Kathy, your blog about postsecret brought tears to my eyes.

    Enjoy your retirement! Have a blast in England.:)

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  48. Kathy,

    Thank you for your years of service. Your careful handling of our secrets means more to us than you can imagine. I hope you and your husband are well in the UK.

    If you're back in the US around July next year I'd highly suggest stopping by the picnic to say hi!

    --Adam

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  49. Dear Kathy,

    Thank you for all your work over the years delivering the Postsecrets, and for sharing your story here, it was a wonderful read. I look forward to reading the secrets every week - Sunday wouldn't be the same without them. I hope you're having a brilliant time in the UK.

    Ruth

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  50. Thank you so much for sharing your side of the story, Kathy. Have fun in England!

    Jenny in New Zealand

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  51. Dear Kathy,
    Welcome to England. I hope you're having a great time here, and that these three years away from home enrich your life in some way.
    This is a beautiful post, with such wonderful memories of your time behind the scenes at Postsecret, and the valued part you had become of the project.
    Frank seems such a lovely person, and it is sad that I will never be likely to see one of his events, nor get to say thank you for so many thought provoking moments.
    Have fun here, and I hope you carry happy memories back home when you return,
    Roger.

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  52. You are a wonderful lady!

    I hope you can come and visit Scotland during your time in the U.K., I know there are many, many people here who would love to meet you

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  53. I love reading PS and saw the link to your post. What a great post it was! Thank you for sharing!

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  54. Thank you, Kathy. You've helped make my life a brighter place. Whatever was going wrong in it during the years you carried mail to Frank's place, I almost always had postcards to look forward to at the start of a new week.

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  55. The message on the inside of the mailbox was for you, too, Kathy. Please don't ever forget it.

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  56. Thanks for all the work you've done Kathy, enjoy your stay at England. :)

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  57. What a fabulous and well-written story. It sounds like fate bestowed that gift on the right mail carrier!

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  58. Hi Kathy

    What a great post! I love post a secret. Thanks for providing more insight into this very special project and Frank Warren
    Angela

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  59. Kathy,

    What a great story! I can only imagine how it must have felt to be a part of something this big. And yes, I agree that there were specific reasons for you being the one who was there at the start of this project. But then, I'm a woo-woo chick who believes that *everything* happens for a reason.

    Enjoy your time in England. I loved reading your post - thank you for sharing your thoughts and feelings about it.

    Be well!

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  60. Wonderful reading. Thank you. I am also enjoying the rest of your blog.

    Kim

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  61. This post brought tears to my eyes too. All my life I've sent letters, postcards to friends and family and have been a fan of Post Secrets for ever. I think if I was a postal worker I'd never get any work done for reading all the postcards etc.,

    Thank you for your service and for writing this. It was nice getting a different perspective.....

    Enjoy England - I left there 12 years ago and now enjoy the US!

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  62. Thanks for sharing your side of the postcards!
    While in England, take your Tour-Guiding guests on the train to Paris, and Enjoy also the City of Lights and Secrets... :)

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  63. What a great reflection on the secrets people send in and how it made you feel about your own life and other people.
    You are probably one of the only people who got to see a lot of them (other than Frank and his family).

    On another note. I wish we had a mail carrier like you.
    Our mail carrier hates his job and has dropped packaged on the ground without knocking and just not left them at all on numerous occasions.

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  64. What a lovely inspiring post, I have only just realised that kirby muxloe is a few miles from me! i hope you like it here!

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  65. thanks for letting us postsecret followers into your world. i look forward to reading about your adventures.

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  66. Thank you so much for sharing your experience with postsecret. I never miss a Sunday reading it. Enjoy your new adventures!

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  67. What a great story!! Thank you for sharing and being an important part of my Sundays.. :)

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  68. For some unexplainable reason, this post made me cry... You seem like an amazing person, and I just felt the urge to comment to tell you that -- though you probably already know! Enjoy life in the UK :)

    -Love from Fairfax County, VA (moved here from Germantown btw!)

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  69. Hi Kathy,

    All of us Post Secret readers thank you! I enjoyed reading your story.

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  70. Kathy,

    This was really beautifully written. Congrats on such an amazing experience and good luck with your new adventure!

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  71. From reading your blog, Kathy, I can't imagine a more perfect person to be the guardian of that fledgeling project all the way through to what PostSecret is today.

    I am a British expat living in New England having moved here for my husband, so I know how odd it feels settling into a new country. I hope you have a blast over there!

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  72. This was a lovely essay, Kathy. I've always wondered about you. Sad to hear that you are leaving...

    Ivy

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  73. This was beautiful Kathy and I thank you for sharing it with us. I am so pleased that Frank knew how import you were to the entire adventure.

    Enjoy your time in England!!

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  74. Kathy,

    Thank you for sharing your story with us. I have been following PS almost since the beginning and I love it. Also, my mom works for Canada Post and so your story resonates with me just a bit more because of the 'postie bond'.

    Thanks again!
    Niki

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  75. Great blog, Kathy! I remember when Frank posted your picture and how excited I was to see who helped make all of this possible. As an adult who lost her father to suicide, I support and celebrate Frank's amazing and unfailing support of suicide prevention. Enjoy England and it a Cadbury Flake for me!

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  76. I know first hand how postsecret has changed lives. It saved mine.

    Thank You for being a large part of that.

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  77. That was incredibly heartwarming! What an amazing experience, I'm very happy for you. :)

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  78. I feel almost stupid not having realized how many people read one of those postcards before it even reaches Frank in MD. It's certainly interesting to hear/read about someone else that is such an integral part of this project. Your blog post brought me to tears and now I know my secret was safe with you, and Frank, until I finally found the courage to share it personally with others.

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  79. Thank you for all you did for Postsecret and for taking the time to tell us about your experience.

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  80. This is so lovely to hear about your story, i have loved the postsecret blog for such a long time and you must have been such an important part of sharing all those inspiring and moving secrets.

    I'm stunned to see you have moved to my village! Hope you are settling in and enjoying it here :) it's a lovely place.
    Enjoy your adventures in the UK!

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  81. Hi Kathy,
    Thank you for sharing your postsecret story. I always thought it was wonderful that someone lovingly read and delivered the secrets to Frank, and that even if they never made it to the website or books, someone at the Postal Service may have read and shared the secret or felt connected to it.
    I hope you are having a lovely time here in the UK, I'm sure all the Postsecret fans here will be hoping to bump into you... and perhaps get an autograph!
    Wishing you well.
    x

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  82. What a lovely story, thank you so much for sharing that with us. I write a card to postsecret every week... I just need to start mailing them!

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  83. Thanks Kathy! Enjoy Europe and send Frank a postcard!

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  84. Kathy, Thanks for sharing your thoughts on Postsecret. It was wonderful to get your point of view on the project, and everyone who reads the secrets appreciates your contribution.

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  85. Loved reading about your experience with Postsecret. Have a wonderful time in England!

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  86. Kathy, you are my hero! his post was very moving and it made me teary. I love the Post Secret project and you're such a big part of it. Thank you for sharing your experience, it's made the whole Post Secret thing even more human. I wish you all the best. Hugs from Brazil :)

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  87. Kathy...
    Thanks for playing such an important role in such a moving project. Best of luck in your new adventure!

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  88. Awww Kathy, I loved this post! I *ALWAYS* wondered about you and what you thought of all the postcards, if you read them, etc. I'm so glad to find out you enjoyed them, not that they were a burden to you and made your job harder! <3.

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  89. Thank you for sharing your perspective from the Post Secret Project.

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  90. Post Secret is the first site I hit every Sunday morning.

    What a beautiful story to go with it. You rock.

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  91. Thank you for helping open my eyes to the many different people of the world. Post Secret really has allowed me see people in a new and better light! You are amazing!

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  92. Great post. I have been a city carrier in Georgia for 34 years. It is funny what we see and hear. Lots of secrets that I will die with. Folks just think they can tell us anything because we must just live alone in that LLV. Very funny! Enjoy England and have a jolly old time.

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  93. Thank you for helping make my Sunday mornings what they are!!

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  94. Thanks so much for sharing your story. You were a part of something huge that has touched so many people's lives.... Thanks for all of it!

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  95. Dear Kathy - You've delivered my secrets to Frank and I thank you from the bottom of my heart for helping me to let go of some of my pain. I wish you all the best with your retirement and relocation. You've done more for all of us with burdens to bear than any doctor or prescription medication ever will. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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  96. Dear Kathy,
    Did you know that one of the secrets you included is Frank's? (He shared it during a PS talk given at my university several years ago.) If so, it was sweet to include that sly wink to him. If not, and you chose that one from the hundred in the books, I think that's an amazing sign of the connection you two shared.
    Thank you for giving us a behind-the-scenes look at this project. I hope no one at the PO gets in trouble for reading the secrets!

    -- Hannah
    Virginia, USA

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  97. Thank you for the incredible story Kathy! :) It is so amazing that you were part of this wonderful project that touches many lives! Good luck with your next adventure!

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  98. You are an amazing part of a wonderful, healing project. Thanks for caring for our secrets and seeing that they got to Frank for the rest of the world to see. God bless you and your family in Europe--I hope you send a few postcards to Frank while you're there!

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  99. i live in ratby and have been reading post secrets for the past 2 years now. love it so much! good luck in everything you do x

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  100. Wow. That was amazing. Even though I have never sent a secret I feel a comfort everytime I read the secrets of other people. I have never sent a secret not because I don't have any, I feel like it's because I'm scared, I'm scared that when I do share my secrets then I have to face them. Reading your blog post about postsecret made me feel emotions that I am scared to face in my life for most of the time. But just like those secrets your story made me cry not because of sadness but because of a comfort that in this world I am not alone. I appreciate you sharing your story to the world. Have fun in England.

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  101. Thanks for delivering our secrets. Enjoy your England adventure!

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  102. Hi Kathy
    Hope your enjoying jolly ole England, im sure you miss the US though, especially your family.
    I read your blog about Post Secret " ive been a fan for a long time " and as a fellow Rural Mail Carrier ( im in California ) I really identified with it, and although I love my route and customers it has made me a tad envious that I don't have someone cool like Frank and family on mine..It must have been really hard not sitting for hours and reading all these secrets from people, I know I would have a difficult time not doing it :) The best of luck to you and your husband on your adventure in England and say hello to the Queen for us :)
    Heather..

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  103. Thank you for your amazing part in the project, Kathy! Hope your time in England is a wonderful adventure. <3

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  104. Hi, this is Kathy. I want to say thank you to all of you wonderful people who have responded to my blog. I had no idea that I was going to be deluged with this outpouring of well wishes! I am indeed humbled. Thank you!

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  105. I do hope you'll keep in touch with Frank and postsecret and that my country is kind to you

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  106. Great writing! Excellent story. Thank you for sharing it with us.

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  107. Kathy, I never mailed in a postcard to Frank. But I have followed the web site for a long time now. Thanks you for the wonderful attitude that you had the whole time and thank you for all the love and care you took with others secrets.

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  108. Thank you for sharing your story with us Kathy!

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  109. i have goosebumps. you were a part of something truly amazing.

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  110. Thank you Kathy :)
    I love Postsecret and I really enjoyed reading about your experience. I'm glad that you appreciate it so much and that you became such a big part of it. It's a beautiful story.

    All the best of luck for England, from Ireland!

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  111. What a wonderful story! I love it. I wake up every Sunday morning eager to get to the Post Secret website just to see what is new this week. I, too, am amazed by the people in our world and what a little kindness and effort on all our parts can do.

    Thanks for delivering the mail and being part of such an amazing project. Good luck in England.

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  112. Hi Kathy,

    Your story made me smile. A friend of mine told me about PostSecret while I was living in Tokyo and when I saw that you were supposed to mail the postcards to Germantown I got so excited. I was like "that zip code is so close to mine, I think he lives down the road from me." I was so chuffed that PostSecret was from Germantown. lol. I've always thought about sending a secret in but never have. It's so great to see all that you did for PostSecret. Job well done.

    I also can't belive there's another Germantown ex-pat in England. I'm in London, aka the Big Smoke. You must be enjoying the Leicestershire countryside! Was just at home for a visit and I miss it so much! But I think if we got a Target here in England I'd be set. =) If you're ever homesick or need to reminisce about Germantown drop me a line-beltran.leilani at gmail.com

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  113. Kathy,
    Thank you for being such a devoted public servant! Enjoy your time in the UK and may God richly bless you!
    Sandy

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  114. Kathy,

    I'm a 16 year old junior in Fort Mill, South Carolina. I can honestly say PostSecret has saved my life. This past winter, I was so depressed that the only comfort I found was embedded in the secrets that reflected my own. These strangers gave me hope that no matter how hard life gets, there is ALWAYS someone who can relate. Thank you for being a part of this life-saving project. I wouldn't have made it without you.

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  115. Very neat account, from an insider's perspective!
    Thanks for sharing, and enjoy your time in the UK!

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  116. These secrets are so sad, I wonder if all of them are true...

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  117. So interesting to hear your side of things. Thanks for telling your story :)

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  118. Good luck with your life in the UK. All the postsecret fans will miss you

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  119. Beautifully written! Thank you for handling our secrets with grace and care.

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  120. Thank you for sharing this insight about the postsecret project! Your writing is very engaging.

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  121. The Other Leanne8 August 2010 at 12:03

    And the comments come like postcards...
    Thank you so much for sharing your perspective. Your story is proof for all of us that no matter how ordinary or overlooked we might feel sometimes, each of us has an opportunity every day to be part of something bigger than ourselves, when we least expect it, whether we are aware of it or not, whether by choice or by chance. Congratulations on knowing you've a difference in people's lives, as you will continue to do wherever you are.

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  122. Dear Kathy,
    What a wonderful way to show how meaningful post secret is to you, i loved your story. I found myself actually crying because I know that you personally delivered my postcard one many years ago and for that I thank you for being the person you are, so accepting and understanding of what post secret is - not everybody does. Thank you and I wish you all the best.

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  123. You are an amazing person, proven by your ever-growing compassion and pure-heartedness.

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  124. Kathy - thank you for delivering my secrets from Canada.

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  125. Welcome to England!

    I love reading the secrets each Sunday and have made time to introduce my family and friends to PostSecret and all the good it has done, especially for me...although they dont know that!

    I just wanted to send you a big thank you for being part of something so wonderful! The years you delivered to Frank's house must be so memorable and I am sure you will treasure it in your heart forever.

    Ive never sent in a secret myself but I have saw many of mine on the website and in the books. Its nice to know when you feel so alone, that in reality you are not!

    If you get the chance you should come up here to Liverpool for a visit:-)

    Enjoy your time here in England!

    Take care,

    Ash x

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  126. Hi Kathy -- I was a mail carrier for 11 years -- I delivered a lot of the same stuff you did -- tires, rotting fish, oozing packages, etc.:) After I quit, a mail-carrier friend sent me a postcard saying, "Happy Birthday! Do you think your mail carrier reads this stuff?" When I received the postcard, it had a sticky attached saying, "You bet I do!"

    On another note, I now teach digital photography classes. I start each beginning class with a screen capture of a postcard I saw on PostSecret: "I am a professional photographer and I have no idea F-stops, ISOs or that other crap is." I use it to make the points that a) they may get through the class and decide that they can't be bothered with all that "other crap" -- and that's just fine; and b) what's really critical is how you frame a scene and handle the light within that scene -- the "other crap" may (or may not) provide you the tools to do that better.

    Being a mail carrier -- even though I didn't deliver secrets on a daily basis (but heck! maybe I did, and just didn't know it!) -- also made me a lot more socially-conscious and compassionate person that I was before. Like you hinted at, you absorb the details of people's lives without even knowing it -- and also like you said, I feel so incredibly lucky that I've never had to deal with some of the really serious, life-or-death problems several of my postal patrons had.

    Thanks for your story, and enjoy England -- and your break from the USPS!

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  127. Your kindness really shines through this blog entry. An enjoyable read. Thanks for all the hard work. Have fun in the UK!

    From a devoted postsecret reader

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  128. Thank you for sharing your story, Kathy!! You and Frank have helped make the world a little less lonely of a place. I bet you both have helped in more ways than you know.

    Best wishes to you on your new adventures :) .

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  129. =]

    That's really all I have to say.

    Good luck in England.

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  130. Hi Kathie, Loved reading your latest post. I told mom I would show her how to make post a comment. I don't know how often she visits our blogs. I check yours often. See you in November. Tamara

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  131. Dear Kathy - I sent in a secret saying that I was going to kill myself in the next couple of days after writing it. Then a day or 2 after mailing it, I couldn't get the thought out of my head that a mail carrier would read my postcard and not want me to die, even though they didn't know me. Maybe it was you - after reading your post I can see that you're a special person. So thank you - I'm working things out.

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  132. As carrier for 26 years I'd like to say thanks for the positive view of letter carriers everywhere and how dedicated we are at providing good service to our customers, famous or not!

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  133. This is baloney, I'm a mail carrier for 9 years now, we do NOT spend 4 to 6 hrs casing mail. We spend maybe 2 hrs at the most and there aren't thousands of letters to case, not even 100's of letters. AND RULE #1 is that we do NOT read peoples mail. I don't care if its written on the outside of an envelope or a postcard, you DO NOT read it, you look at the address and case it, period. Also, most letters are sorted by machines and put in order of delivery for your ruote, you don't even see the letters til you get to the address to deliver them, only a handful of letters get kicked out by the machines to be cased by the carrier in the morning. This story is BULL!

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  134. Kathy,
    I so enjoyed your post. I've been a Post Secret fan for years and have all of Frank's books. It was interesting seeing it all from your perspective. You were (and still are) a part of something very special...a real life saver for many. I've not sent in my post card yet.....I'm looking forward to reading some of your other posts. God Bless.

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  135. Lovely story, Kathy. Take care in the UK.

    xx

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  136. Thank you for all that you have done for the project. You've held the world's secrets in the palms of your hands. Thank you for handling them with such love and care.

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  137. Just a clarification for the anonymous post at 15:01. City carriers have their mail in DPS (or 'presorted' to regular folks). Rural carriers actually do sort ALL of their mail by hand. Letters as well as bulk mail. After 11 years in the business I have the papercuts to prove it! Rock on Kathy from Lakebay, Washington State.

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  138. A year and a half ago, I was faced with making the toughest decision of my life - a decision which, in retrospect, I realize had no right answers. A few weeks after the ordeal, I sent it in as a secret.

    This week, Frank posted it (it's the one at the top).

    After reading your reflections, knowing that my secret likely passed through your hands makes it even more meaningful.

    God bless you.

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  139. Kathy, It's so much fun to read "the other side of the story"! I've been reading PS for years, but this is the first time I've thought about it from your perspective. Hope England is treating you well!

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  140. Thank you Kathy for this post and for helping make PostSecret an exercise in group therapy for all of us. It is part of my Sunday ritual and I always draw strength and perspective from it.

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  141. An awesome read (as aways!) written by my Aunt Kathy! This is SO cool! I know I've heard you talk about it before but I never really new the depths of what it was or what was going on. Now, I see. You are so lucky to be a part of this! I think people are right, you were somehow chosen for this. Yours is a life truly blessed!

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  142. I'm so glad that someone as gracious and open-minded as you are was lucky enough to be a part of this project. Everything happens for a reason.

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  143. This was beautifully written Kathy! Have an amazing adventure abroad!

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  144. Hello Kathy!
    Coming to you from Post Secret.
    I hope you don't mind that I'll be staying. I enjoy reading blogs (am working on starting one myself) and I have been reading back to your original entries about your move to England. I am loving it!

    Thanks for writing and for delivering all those secrets.

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  145. Every Sunday I read the secrets and feel a little less alone. I imagine not everyone in your shoes would have greeted the project as enthusiastically as you did. Thanks for making Post Secret possible. Enjoy England!!

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  146. I, like others here, have always wondered about Frank's mail carrier, whether or not you read the secrets, how you felt about them, how you reacted to all those postcards week after week, etc.

    I'm glad to know that you are the one who delivered them. It seems like there could have been no better person to take on the job.

    Good luck with all the rest of your adventures in England and wherever else life takes you!

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  147. Dear Kathy,
    Your blog was soooo touching and it brought happy tears to my eyes at several moments while reading it. I'm so glad such a nice woman was the mail carrier for such an amazing project! Good luck and best wishes for your time in England. Have fun and take tons of photos!!

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  148. What a fantastic story! The insight from your perspective is really amazing. I was smiling the whole time reading your post, imagining what life would have been like on the PostSecret route. Thanks for writing this! :)

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  149. Paula (Love from BR)8 August 2010 at 20:16

    I'd love to say that people from all the world rejoice from your words. I'm Brazilian and it was a pleasure to me to read your view on the PostSecret Project. It makes me wonder... if from such a distance this project has helped and changed me so much, I envy you for how much you must have learned from your experience. But there always come a time in which we have throw ourselves at the world so that all that wisdom may be passed on... hope you enjoy that new moment of your life. It was well deserved. And remember that, no matter where you are, I'm sure not only Frank but all PostSecret fans will always consider you a part of it all. Thanks for so many years of dedication. :)

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  150. It is really incredible to hear how the experience happened and affected you. thanks for sharing.

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  151. Cool story Kathy. Thanks for sharing it. Does that make me famous since we're related???

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  152. Thank you so much for sharing your experience with us. Post Secret has become my weekly ritual and I can never thank you enough for delivering all those secrets to Frank on a daily basis. Have a wonderful time in England Kathy and thank you once again.

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  153. Kathy, I think it's wonderful you're so open-minded about the Post Secret project, and I'm sure you've seen just about every secret imaginable. What a great role you played in the process. Enjoy your time in England (I'm quite jealous).

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  154. This is sooo great! You are a very lucky woman for being part of something so amazing, I believe things happen for a reason so I think this should feel like winning the lotery -a once in a lifetime experience... Thanks for delivery the mail Kathy! Un abrazo desde Mexico!

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  155. what an amazing story. i looked at the rest of your blog before commenting, and it looks like you are having a great time in england. enjoy

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  156. this was an ammmaazzziingg experience to read an im sooo glad you shared it with all of us postsecret readers!:D it means so much that you helped with all the secrets! without you, it couldnt have happend!

    have fun in england!

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  157. This is so great! I have always been curious about the post office's experience of Post Secret! I'm glad it has touched you as much as it has touched the rest of the world :)

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  158. Thanks for sharing the story!! I really enjoy reading it.

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  159. What a lovely experience! What an amazing idea! It must have changed your lives, as well as those of all the people who needed to get it off their chests and couldn't before...
    Congratulations to all of you!

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  160. What a great perspective! Kathy, have an awesome time in the UK (I'm a Brit living in Canada ;) ) and keep writing: is it wrong that I'm sad that now if I send in my secret you won't deliver it?

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  161. Beautifully written. Thank you. <3

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  162. Thank you so much for your story, Kathy. I have never written a secret to send to Frank, but I really enjoy them and have found them to be just as sad or inspiring as you describe.

    I'm sure that Frank will miss you, but I hope you enjoy your time in the UK! :)

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  163. kathy, thank you for sharing your story with us. Hope you are having a great time in the UK!

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  164. This post made me unspeakably happy. Thank you for sharing.

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  165. Kathy - you are living my DREAM!!

    ps: thanks SO much for your service. As a former Germantown resident I take pride in having lived where Postsecret lives - and I often miss the organized wonder that is the Germantown post office!

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  166. Kathy, thanks so much for sharing your experiences! Loved reading this post. Take care on your next adventure.

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  167. Kathy, thanks for sharing your side of the story. It was a beautifully written post. I hope you are having a wonderful time in England.

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  168. Great post. I sincerely enjoyed it. :) Hope you're having a blast in England!

    - Postsecret reader in Canada

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  169. Kathy, it's stories like yours that = a life and a well lived one. This reflection is everybit as poignant as a post secret. Thank you for sharing. Thank you for being you and for touching lives.
    P.S. I have been fortunate enough to have a post carrier every bit as lovely. Post carriers carry secrets everyday whether they know it or not.

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  170. Kathy,

    Thanks so much for sharing--I have been a fan of post secret from the beginning (the internet beginning that is), and without you, it would not have been the same! Enjoy the UK!

    V

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  171. visiting from Frank's site.

    Thanks for everything!

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  172. Kathy -

    Thanks for all you have done, and for writing this. You are an amazing writer, and you alone opened me up to another facet of impact that the PS project has, and that is on the mail carriers. I had never really stopped to consider all of the USPS workers, reading the mail - the mail carriers at your old job, the new ones, the ones picking the postcards up all over the US, "not reading the cards" :P It deeply touched me to know how truly connected everyone is, how you are never really alone.

    I wish you the best of luck in your new job, but I hope that you will remain in contact with Frank, and with us. Never lose that sense of connectedness that being a mail carrier must have given you!

    - Lisa M. of Pittsburgh, PA

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  173. Thanks for sharing your experience with us. I think the PostSecret Project is amazing to begin with, but to see it through your eyes makes it that much better.

    Here's my secret: I'm jealous of all the mail that Frank gets. I love getting mail, and when I see the stack of mail you're putting in Frank's mailbox in the picture from his book, I often wish that it was me getting that mail! :)

    You truly set an amazing example for mail carriers everywhere. Thank you for making the PostSecret project such a success. Without you to deliver those secrets, none of us would be able to enjoy the project as much as we do today!

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  174. I was linked here through PostSecret, and this story brought tears to my eyes. You are obviously a wonderful person, and I'm so honored to have read your story!

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  175. Kathy! I am an 18 year old girl just out of high school in California heading to Seattle, Washington next year for college. I have been checking the Postsecret website every Sunday since my good friend showed me a card that made her think of me, reading "I wish I was HIP & had an afro" (I too remember my first Postsecret!).

    Reading your post has made the Postsecret just that much more special to me, knowing that you love the project as much as it loves you! Frank was not lying when he would tell you you were the MVP. You're the glue to every postcard.

    You have seen thousands on thousands of cards sent to Frank, so I thought maybe I would send one of my own just to you:

    -- Of all the things that scare me about going to college (making friends, fitting in, finding classes, etc.), I am still mostly scared of the idea that I am forever moving out of the only bedroom I have ever had. --


    Thank you Kathy, for everything. Enjoy your adventure to England!

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  176. I am glad you enjoyed being part of the post secret project as I used to think...gosh, that poor mail carrier having to sort and deliver all that!

    It is very interesting that you're getting the opportunity to live abroad for a bit. I am a tad jealous. Enjoy yourself and I enjoyed reading your post.

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  177. Dear Kathy,

    having come here through postsecret, along with everyone else, it seems, thank you for helping make postsecret possible.
    Mail carriers are definitively one of the underappreciated working groups, but having read your story, I'm getting an idea of what the post office workers have to do to keep mail flowing smoothly - it makes me just a little bit more thankful and less annoyed when we get twenty pieces of mail that belong in a different county!
    thank you for your time helping deliver mail, and thank you to all of the USPS staff who ensure that we get at least most of what we're supposed to receive :)

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  178. You know, my secrets never made it into the books. . . but thank you for carrying them. . . for taking that weight off of my chest.

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  179. thanks for being the witness to so many of our lives...and for the delivery of all the great secrets! do you have a favorite from all the ones you've seen over the years?

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  180. We love you Kathy!
    Thanks for everything!

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  181. hi kathy,

    thank you for taking such great care of all of our secrets. we'll miss you, but hope that you enjoy your adventure in the UK!

    love,
    tania

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  182. What a great story! Thanks so much for sharing with us and for making PostSecret possible.
    Much Love
    XOXO

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  183. Kathy,
    Your story is just as inspiring and exciting as any postcard. Enjoy your time in England!

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  184. Kathy, you are really cool. I was sad to hear it when you moved away, even though we never met, and never will meet. Post Secret always makes me feel like I have a family, and you are part of it. Blessings on you!

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  185. I have always wanted to be a mail carrier. Its such an important job! Congrats on your retirement. Enjoy it!

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  186. THE WORLD LOVES KATHY!!!!!!!!!
    HUGS FROM COSTA RICA AND A POST SECRET FAN!

    Gaby

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  187. What??!! While the theme of your story is intersting, as a 25+ yr employee of the United States Postal Service I am appalled by your apparent lack of respect for your customers privacy. You not only read these cards, you showed them to other employees as if you had any right to do so. Had you worked in my office you would have been immediately disciplined, up to and including removal from your job. Maybe you didn't take your oath to preserve the sanctity of the mails seriously, but I can tell you that thousands of other USPS employees do. The American public places their trust in us to protect their privacy - IF you really were a letter carrier, you have shamed us all.

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  188. Thank you for sharing your perspective. It was a thoughtful and enjoyable read. I hope you enjoy and learn from your current adventure as much as from PS.

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  189. The postcard have always been so intriguing and powerful because of how brief they are. But, they always leave me wanting more. I've never been able to see Frank speak. Your "behind the scenes" inspiring story was exactly what I needed to top off the post secret experience. Thank you for delivering them and for writing about your experience. God bless.

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  190. Dear Kathy,
    Thank you for this considerate and heartfelt account of your part in the PS project. Your story illustrates the fact that every secret we send to Frank, even the ones the rest of the world never sees, is cared for and respected! Thank you so much for everything you have done for Post Secret and enjoy your time across the pond!
    With love from Pittsburgh!

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  191. Kathy,

    Knowing you read my secrets make them more real - thank you for bearing that weight with me. Your dedication to your career and the project is apparent. I have nothing but the utmost respect and gratefulness towards you. Best of luck on your new path - your life has endless possibilities.

    Thank you, for everything.
    Kristina
    Colorado

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  192. Amazing Kathy. Both you and Frank have helped so many people and certainly made the world a better place in you're own great way.

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  193. You're amazing. Thank you! Hope you're enjoying England. :)

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